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nodebb-plugin-session-sharing(7.2.3) can't make it work on NodeBB v4.4.4

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    nodebb-plugin-sso-auth0 (4.2.0) works fine, I can use auth0 to login with google or github

    but now I have a different site running on localhost:4200, I have tab called Forum that open a new tab window going to localhost:4567
    built a small node express server to create a cookie.

    so I login to my site on localhost:4200 via auth0 and it creates a cookie for the session-sharing plugin

       res.cookie(CONFIG.nodebb.cookieName, jwtToken, {
      httpOnly: true,
      secure: false,          // localhost http
      sameSite: 'lax',        // first-party in dev
      path: '/',              // send everywhere
      maxAge: CONFIG.nodebb.cookieMaxAgeMs,
    
    });


    Final NodeBB payload: {
  "id": 951566902,
  "username": "theddiem",
  "email": "theddiem@gmail.com",
  "picture": "https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/a/ACg1ocJLXRjLY5JH5l7gDBBuWLCuboR7n4pEXkXoxyHn9XvAyx8p_7td=s96-c",
  "firstName": "the",
  "lastName": "dem",
  "externalId": "google-oauth2|106089043025998015329"
}

    than I click on the navbar to open the forum running on localhost:4567, in dev tools I see a cookie there
    but I am not logged in automaticly and in the nodebb dev logs I don't see the plugin tries to read the cookie

    also if the user is in not registered in the forum at all and used my site to login with auth0 and than go to fourm via navbar link it suppose to register him automiatclly?

    9942908c-7ed4-40ab-ab25-c69085b76c52-image.png

    Clustering enabled: Spinning up 1 process(es).

2025-07-28T08:31:50.786Z [4567/9188] - verbose: * using configuration stored in: C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\config.json
2025-07-28T08:31:50.800Z [4567/9188] - info: Initializing NodeBB v4.4.4 http://localhost:4567
2025-07-28T08:31:50.801Z [4567/9188] - verbose: * using mongo store at 127.0.0.1:27017
2025-07-28T08:31:50.804Z [4567/9188] - verbose: * using themes stored in: C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\node_modules
2025-07-28T08:32:00.439Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [minifier] utilizing a maximum of 7 additional threads
2025-07-28T08:32:01.486Z [4567/9188] - verbose: Checking dependencies for outdated modules
2025-07-28T08:32:05.682Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [notifications.init] Registering jobs.
2025-07-28T08:32:05.685Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [user/jobs] (Re-)starting jobs...
2025-07-28T08:32:05.687Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [user/jobs] Starting job (digest.daily)
2025-07-28T08:32:05.689Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [user/jobs] Starting job (digest.weekly)
2025-07-28T08:32:05.693Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [user/jobs] Starting job (digest.monthly)
2025-07-28T08:32:05.695Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [user/jobs] Starting job (reset.clean)
2025-07-28T08:32:05.695Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [user/jobs] jobs started
2025-07-28T08:32:05.699Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [scheduled topics] Starting jobs.
2025-07-28T08:32:05.703Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [activitypub/jobs] Registering jobs.
2025-07-28T08:32:05.719Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [emailer] Setting up fallback transport
2025-07-28T08:32:05.954Z [4567/9188] - info: [themes] Using theme nodebb-theme-harmony
2025-07-28T08:32:05.955Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Initializing plugins system
2025-07-28T08:32:06.008Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 scss file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-composer-default
2025-07-28T08:32:06.019Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 13 AMD-style module(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-composer-default
2025-07-28T08:32:06.021Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 2 js file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-composer-default
2025-07-28T08:32:06.023Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-plugin-composer-default
2025-07-28T08:32:06.043Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] found 2 static directories for nodebb-theme-harmony
2025-07-28T08:32:06.045Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 js file(s) for plugin nodebb-theme-harmony
2025-07-28T08:32:06.047Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 2 AMD-style module(s) for plugin nodebb-theme-harmony
2025-07-28T08:32:06.050Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-theme-harmony
2025-07-28T08:32:06.133Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 scss file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-markdown
2025-07-28T08:32:06.140Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 js file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-markdown
2025-07-28T08:32:06.141Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 2 AMD-style module(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-markdown
2025-07-28T08:32:06.144Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] found 1 static directories for nodebb-plugin-markdown
2025-07-28T08:32:06.146Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-plugin-markdown
2025-07-28T08:32:06.212Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 js file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-mentions
2025-07-28T08:32:06.213Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 AMD-style module(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-mentions
2025-07-28T08:32:06.243Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-plugin-mentions
2025-07-28T08:32:06.480Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] found 1 static directories for nodebb-plugin-web-push
2025-07-28T08:32:06.482Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 2 AMD-style module(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-web-push
2025-07-28T08:32:06.492Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-plugin-web-push
2025-07-28T08:32:06.514Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 css file(s) for plugin nodebb-widget-essentials
2025-07-28T08:32:06.515Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-widget-essentials
2025-07-28T08:32:06.545Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-rewards-essentials
2025-07-28T08:32:07.115Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 scss file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-emoji
2025-07-28T08:32:07.115Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 acpScss file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-emoji
2025-07-28T08:32:07.124Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 js file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-emoji
2025-07-28T08:32:07.125Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 js file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-emoji
2025-07-28T08:32:07.127Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] found 1 static directories for nodebb-plugin-emoji
2025-07-28T08:32:07.128Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 5 AMD-style module(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-emoji
2025-07-28T08:32:07.162Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-plugin-emoji
2025-07-28T08:32:07.197Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-plugin-emoji-android
2025-07-28T08:32:07.317Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 AMD-style module(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-session-sharing
2025-07-28T08:32:07.318Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 js file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-session-sharing
2025-07-28T08:32:07.320Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-plugin-session-sharing
2025-07-28T08:32:07.770Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 AMD-style module(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-sso-auth0
2025-07-28T08:32:07.770Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-plugin-sso-auth0

2025-07-28T08:32:07.776Z [4567/9188] - warn: [plugins/load] The following plugins may not be compatible with your version of NodeBB. This may cause unintended behaviour or crashing. In the event of an unresponsive NodeBB caused by this plugin, run `./nodebb reset -p PLUGINNAME` to disable it.
  * nodebb-plugin-emoji-android

2025-07-28T08:32:07.782Z [4567/9188] - info: [plugins] Plugins OK
2025-07-28T08:32:07.872Z [4567/9188] - info: [plugins/web-push] VAPID keys OK.
2025-07-28T08:32:07.874Z [4567/9188] - error: [plugins] Error executing 'static:app.load' in plugin 'nodebb-plugin-web-push'
Error: Vapid subject is not an https: or mailto: URL. http://localhost:4567
    at Object.validateSubject (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\node_modules\web-push\src\vapid-helper.js:85:11)
    at WebPushLib.setVapidDetails (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\node_modules\web-push\src\web-push-lib.js:59:17)
    at assertVapidConfiguration (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\node_modules\nodebb-plugin-web-push\library.js:64:10)
    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:105:5)
    at async plugin.init [as method] (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\node_modules\nodebb-plugin-web-push\library.js:32:2)
    at async Object.fireStaticHook [as static] (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\src\plugins\hooks.js:238:4)
    at async Hooks.fire (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\src\plugins\hooks.js:106:17)
    at async Plugins.reloadRoutes (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\src\plugins\index.js:150:2)
    at async module.exports (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\src\routes\index.js:146:2)
    at async initializeNodeBB (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\src\webserver.js:113:2)
2025-07-28T08:32:07.896Z [4567/9188] - info: [session-sharing] Settings OK
2025-07-28T08:32:07.898Z [4567/9188] - warn: [helpers.setupPageRoute(/deauth/auth0)] passing `middleware` as the third param is deprecated, it can now be safely removed
2025-07-28T08:32:07.899Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] All plugins reloaded and rerouted
2025-07-28T08:32:07.999Z [4567/9188] - info: [api] Adding 3 route(s) to `api/v3/plugins`
2025-07-28T08:32:08.025Z [4567/9188] - info: [router] Routes added
2025-07-28T08:32:08.030Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [meta/blacklist] Loading 0 blacklist rule(s)
2025-07-28T08:32:08.046Z [4567/9188] - info: 🎉 NodeBB Ready
2025-07-28T08:32:08.048Z [4567/9188] - info: 🤝 Enabling 'trust proxy'
2025-07-28T08:32:08.061Z [4567/9188] - info: 📡 NodeBB is now listening on: 0.0.0.0:4567
2025-07-28T08:32:08.062Z [4567/9188] - info: 🔗 Canonical URL: http://localhost:4567
    0
  • T theeddiem@community.nodebb.org

    nodebb-plugin-sso-auth0 (4.2.0) works fine, I can use auth0 to login with google or github

    but now I have a different site running on localhost:4200, I have tab called Forum that open a new tab window going to localhost:4567
    built a small node express server to create a cookie.

    so I login to my site on localhost:4200 via auth0 and it creates a cookie for the session-sharing plugin

       res.cookie(CONFIG.nodebb.cookieName, jwtToken, {
      httpOnly: true,
      secure: false,          // localhost http
      sameSite: 'lax',        // first-party in dev
      path: '/',              // send everywhere
      maxAge: CONFIG.nodebb.cookieMaxAgeMs,
    
    });


    Final NodeBB payload: {
  "id": 951566902,
  "username": "theddiem",
  "email": "theddiem@gmail.com",
  "picture": "https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/a/ACg1ocJLXRjLY5JH5l7gDBBuWLCuboR7n4pEXkXoxyHn9XvAyx8p_7td=s96-c",
  "firstName": "the",
  "lastName": "dem",
  "externalId": "google-oauth2|106089043025998015329"
}

    than I click on the navbar to open the forum running on localhost:4567, in dev tools I see a cookie there
    but I am not logged in automaticly and in the nodebb dev logs I don't see the plugin tries to read the cookie

    also if the user is in not registered in the forum at all and used my site to login with auth0 and than go to fourm via navbar link it suppose to register him automiatclly?

    9942908c-7ed4-40ab-ab25-c69085b76c52-image.png

    Clustering enabled: Spinning up 1 process(es).

2025-07-28T08:31:50.786Z [4567/9188] - verbose: * using configuration stored in: C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\config.json
2025-07-28T08:31:50.800Z [4567/9188] - info: Initializing NodeBB v4.4.4 http://localhost:4567
2025-07-28T08:31:50.801Z [4567/9188] - verbose: * using mongo store at 127.0.0.1:27017
2025-07-28T08:31:50.804Z [4567/9188] - verbose: * using themes stored in: C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\node_modules
2025-07-28T08:32:00.439Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [minifier] utilizing a maximum of 7 additional threads
2025-07-28T08:32:01.486Z [4567/9188] - verbose: Checking dependencies for outdated modules
2025-07-28T08:32:05.682Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [notifications.init] Registering jobs.
2025-07-28T08:32:05.685Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [user/jobs] (Re-)starting jobs...
2025-07-28T08:32:05.687Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [user/jobs] Starting job (digest.daily)
2025-07-28T08:32:05.689Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [user/jobs] Starting job (digest.weekly)
2025-07-28T08:32:05.693Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [user/jobs] Starting job (digest.monthly)
2025-07-28T08:32:05.695Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [user/jobs] Starting job (reset.clean)
2025-07-28T08:32:05.695Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [user/jobs] jobs started
2025-07-28T08:32:05.699Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [scheduled topics] Starting jobs.
2025-07-28T08:32:05.703Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [activitypub/jobs] Registering jobs.
2025-07-28T08:32:05.719Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [emailer] Setting up fallback transport
2025-07-28T08:32:05.954Z [4567/9188] - info: [themes] Using theme nodebb-theme-harmony
2025-07-28T08:32:05.955Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Initializing plugins system
2025-07-28T08:32:06.008Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 scss file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-composer-default
2025-07-28T08:32:06.019Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 13 AMD-style module(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-composer-default
2025-07-28T08:32:06.021Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 2 js file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-composer-default
2025-07-28T08:32:06.023Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-plugin-composer-default
2025-07-28T08:32:06.043Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] found 2 static directories for nodebb-theme-harmony
2025-07-28T08:32:06.045Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 js file(s) for plugin nodebb-theme-harmony
2025-07-28T08:32:06.047Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 2 AMD-style module(s) for plugin nodebb-theme-harmony
2025-07-28T08:32:06.050Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-theme-harmony
2025-07-28T08:32:06.133Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 scss file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-markdown
2025-07-28T08:32:06.140Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 js file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-markdown
2025-07-28T08:32:06.141Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 2 AMD-style module(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-markdown
2025-07-28T08:32:06.144Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] found 1 static directories for nodebb-plugin-markdown
2025-07-28T08:32:06.146Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-plugin-markdown
2025-07-28T08:32:06.212Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 js file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-mentions
2025-07-28T08:32:06.213Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 AMD-style module(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-mentions
2025-07-28T08:32:06.243Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-plugin-mentions
2025-07-28T08:32:06.480Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] found 1 static directories for nodebb-plugin-web-push
2025-07-28T08:32:06.482Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 2 AMD-style module(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-web-push
2025-07-28T08:32:06.492Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-plugin-web-push
2025-07-28T08:32:06.514Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 css file(s) for plugin nodebb-widget-essentials
2025-07-28T08:32:06.515Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-widget-essentials
2025-07-28T08:32:06.545Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-rewards-essentials
2025-07-28T08:32:07.115Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 scss file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-emoji
2025-07-28T08:32:07.115Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 acpScss file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-emoji
2025-07-28T08:32:07.124Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 js file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-emoji
2025-07-28T08:32:07.125Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 js file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-emoji
2025-07-28T08:32:07.127Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] found 1 static directories for nodebb-plugin-emoji
2025-07-28T08:32:07.128Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 5 AMD-style module(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-emoji
2025-07-28T08:32:07.162Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-plugin-emoji
2025-07-28T08:32:07.197Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-plugin-emoji-android
2025-07-28T08:32:07.317Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 AMD-style module(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-session-sharing
2025-07-28T08:32:07.318Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 js file(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-session-sharing
2025-07-28T08:32:07.320Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-plugin-session-sharing
2025-07-28T08:32:07.770Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Found 1 AMD-style module(s) for plugin nodebb-plugin-sso-auth0
2025-07-28T08:32:07.770Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] Loaded plugin: nodebb-plugin-sso-auth0

2025-07-28T08:32:07.776Z [4567/9188] - warn: [plugins/load] The following plugins may not be compatible with your version of NodeBB. This may cause unintended behaviour or crashing. In the event of an unresponsive NodeBB caused by this plugin, run `./nodebb reset -p PLUGINNAME` to disable it.
  * nodebb-plugin-emoji-android

2025-07-28T08:32:07.782Z [4567/9188] - info: [plugins] Plugins OK
2025-07-28T08:32:07.872Z [4567/9188] - info: [plugins/web-push] VAPID keys OK.
2025-07-28T08:32:07.874Z [4567/9188] - error: [plugins] Error executing 'static:app.load' in plugin 'nodebb-plugin-web-push'
Error: Vapid subject is not an https: or mailto: URL. http://localhost:4567
    at Object.validateSubject (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\node_modules\web-push\src\vapid-helper.js:85:11)
    at WebPushLib.setVapidDetails (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\node_modules\web-push\src\web-push-lib.js:59:17)
    at assertVapidConfiguration (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\node_modules\nodebb-plugin-web-push\library.js:64:10)
    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:105:5)
    at async plugin.init [as method] (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\node_modules\nodebb-plugin-web-push\library.js:32:2)
    at async Object.fireStaticHook [as static] (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\src\plugins\hooks.js:238:4)
    at async Hooks.fire (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\src\plugins\hooks.js:106:17)
    at async Plugins.reloadRoutes (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\src\plugins\index.js:150:2)
    at async module.exports (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\src\routes\index.js:146:2)
    at async initializeNodeBB (C:\Users\User\Desktop\nodebb\src\webserver.js:113:2)
2025-07-28T08:32:07.896Z [4567/9188] - info: [session-sharing] Settings OK
2025-07-28T08:32:07.898Z [4567/9188] - warn: [helpers.setupPageRoute(/deauth/auth0)] passing `middleware` as the third param is deprecated, it can now be safely removed
2025-07-28T08:32:07.899Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [plugins] All plugins reloaded and rerouted
2025-07-28T08:32:07.999Z [4567/9188] - info: [api] Adding 3 route(s) to `api/v3/plugins`
2025-07-28T08:32:08.025Z [4567/9188] - info: [router] Routes added
2025-07-28T08:32:08.030Z [4567/9188] - verbose: [meta/blacklist] Loading 0 blacklist rule(s)
2025-07-28T08:32:08.046Z [4567/9188] - info: 🎉 NodeBB Ready
2025-07-28T08:32:08.048Z [4567/9188] - info: 🤝 Enabling 'trust proxy'
2025-07-28T08:32:08.061Z [4567/9188] - info: 📡 NodeBB is now listening on: 0.0.0.0:4567
2025-07-28T08:32:08.062Z [4567/9188] - info: 🔗 Canonical URL: http://localhost:4567
    julian@community.nodebb.orgJ

    Sounds like you figured it out in the other topic 👍

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    Upgrade form 3.x to 4.x

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    julian@community.nodebb.orgJ
    baris awesome work as always!
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    Grant one user full control over another user’s account in a custom plugin

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    julian@community.nodebb.orgJ
    AMAARETS I think all you really need to do is have your plugin change req.session.uid and req.uid to the target uid. Although in practice there might be some cases I did not consider.
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    SSO, admin role

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    julian@community.nodebb.orgJ
    eugene_thedev are you referring to specifically the oauth2-multiple plugin? I'm not exactly sure whether that is supported in the current iteration of the plugin.
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    No Space between widgets

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    julian@community.nodebb.orgJ
    Ashutosh-Verma have you tried adding a widget container to the widget? Widgets normally aren't set up with any containers so there won't be any space between them.