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Kinda weird hearing about Threads devs talking at Fediverse House considering that they promised full federation by the end of 2024 and we're almost through the first quarter of 2025 and we don't seem any closer to that promise.

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  • Kinda weird hearing about Threads devs talking at Fediverse House considering that they promised full federation by the end of 2024 and we're almost through the first quarter of 2025 and we don't seem any closer to that promise.

    Those who were there, did they give an update on when they plan on allowing replies and such?

    Feels like they're dropping the ball big time.

  • Kinda weird hearing about Threads devs talking at Fediverse House considering that they promised full federation by the end of 2024 and we're almost through the first quarter of 2025 and we don't seem any closer to that promise.

    Those who were there, did they give an update on when they plan on allowing replies and such?

    Feels like they're dropping the ball big time.

    @BeAware this was directly asked in a panel, and the explanation of challenges was all about the legal and regulatory reviews required. Like you, I'm frustrated at the slow progress, and I thought the question was pointed and relevant. @pcottle was on two panels - the recordings will be released when the @Flipboard folks are able to get them sorted out, as I understand it.

  • @BeAware this was directly asked in a panel, and the explanation of challenges was all about the legal and regulatory reviews required. Like you, I'm frustrated at the slow progress, and I thought the question was pointed and relevant. @pcottle was on two panels - the recordings will be released when the @Flipboard folks are able to get them sorted out, as I understand it.

    @andypiper hmm...I wouldn't think there would be legal and regulatory issues outside of EU, which they already address by not letting EU users federate.

    Seems like a corporate cop-out tbh and makes me think we won't see full federation.🤦♂

  • Kinda weird hearing about Threads devs talking at Fediverse House considering that they promised full federation by the end of 2024 and we're almost through the first quarter of 2025 and we don't seem any closer to that promise.

    Those who were there, did they give an update on when they plan on allowing replies and such?

    Feels like they're dropping the ball big time.

    @BeAware Also, Threads kind of lost the thread. From what I understand, most people who wanted to leave Twitter for another big corporate experience ended up on BlueSky, and the relevance of Threads is highly questionable.

    (That leaves aside the more-important question Meta's toxic moderation guidelines that specifically target 2SLGBTQIA+ people, with examples of how to harass them without getting in trouble. 😡)

  • @BeAware Also, Threads kind of lost the thread. From what I understand, most people who wanted to leave Twitter for another big corporate experience ended up on BlueSky, and the relevance of Threads is highly questionable.

    (That leaves aside the more-important question Meta's toxic moderation guidelines that specifically target 2SLGBTQIA+ people, with examples of how to harass them without getting in trouble. 😡)

    @david_megginson you have to look real hard on threads to find those asshole harassers tbh. At least I've only seen a few so far.🤷♂

  • @david_megginson you have to look real hard on threads to find those asshole harassers tbh. At least I've only seen a few so far.🤷♂

    @BeAware Yes, but that's beside the point. If the company operating it states its intention to allow harassment and actually encourages it, "I haven't noticed it much myself" doesn't carry much weight.

    If my neighbour threatens to stab me, I don't invite them into my house because I don't have any knife wounds yet.

  • @BeAware Yes, but that's beside the point. If the company operating it states its intention to allow harassment and actually encourages it, "I haven't noticed it much myself" doesn't carry much weight.

    If my neighbour threatens to stab me, I don't invite them into my house because I don't have any knife wounds yet.

  • @andypiper hmm...I wouldn't think there would be legal and regulatory issues outside of EU, which they already address by not letting EU users federate.

    Seems like a corporate cop-out tbh and makes me think we won't see full federation.🤦♂

    @beaware@mementomori.social @andypiper@macaw.social as I heard from Peter directly, the legal issues also come from internal pressure. Fediverse integration implies giving up control over content, and that's a huge pill to swallow for a company that is literally described as a data silo.

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