@jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu if you're seeing Hubzilla backfill "bit by bit" it is likely doing inReplyTo traversal, which is what NodeBB does if it cannot find a resolvable context.

Thanks for putting this together @julian. I'll be coming to the next Forum WG meeting on March 6 to discuss next steps

IIRC @kopper@brain.d.on-t.work implemented backfill on Iceshrimp.net, maybe they wanna share their approach.

@panos there's nothing i could really add that's anything novel.

we simply recurse through replies collections with plans to load context collections whenever they get more adoption (and whenever i get the motivation to write the code). we already expose context collections of our own

> we already expose context collections of our own

@kopper@brain.d.on-t.work you do? Kick ass. Let me run some tests and see how it performs!

> with plans to load context collections whenever they get more adoption

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Can I put you down under the "wait and see" category?

@julian

Can I put you down under the "wait and see" category?

@julian I implemented collection of posts in mitra. For now it is only attached to top-level posts (via context).

Here, for example: https://mitra.social/objects/019529ff-7a45-9752-16f2-a3e780746c1c

Very complicated all this Fediverse stuff! Far from the dream of having one account for everything, I seemed to need an account on every service to get the whole picture. I have now Nodebb, Mastodon, Lemmy, PixelFed and Peertube!
I dont know if Im just not using it properly, or if seeing everything from any one of these site is even possible?
@julian how far off is the prospect of using my nodebb account for all Federated chat, is that even achievable in long term?

@Kichae @eeeee that is my approach as well. I was tired of having to maintain so many accounts for "social media", and so when I was finally able to make NodeBB my primary gateway to social media that was a big step for me.

It doesn't hurt that I get way more engagement on the open social web

@julian "We're making a super cool product that's adopting this space" tends to go over well in the Fediverse, yeah. We love being catered to with cool toys and tools!

And good God do I miss real forums, after a decade on Reddit.

Ok, if I can give specific example. I found a community via lemmy which is interesting.
@medicine@mander.xyz
If I want to post a topic in it, can I make a nodebb post and send it there?

@eeeee I'm not actually sure about it, but I think all you have to do is mention the community.

In fact, you did in your reply, and I don't actually know what would happen normally. Perhaps it has to be a root post.

Ok I tried this as as a root post

It didnt get there.
Whereas I can post into that community with my similar named lemm.ee account

.. in medicine@mander.xyz group nothing arrived
There is a post I made earlier (using isurg@lemm.ee) but not this latest one from isurg@nodebb

@eeeee Thanks, can you open an issue about this? I'll have to see what Lemmy expects for a new submission.

@julian I tested out a root post that mentioned a PieFed community, and it got there okay - it's viewable at https://pythag.net/c/sci_fi (and federated out okay to another PieFed instance at https://palaver.p3x.de/c/sci_fi@pythag.net)

My guess as to why Lemmy might not like it is that the activity contains:

"audience": "https://community.nodebb.org/category/-1"

It looks like Lemmy tries to fetch that and can't parse the response.

@freamon oh! You're right on the money.

For whatever reason, Lemmy always checks audience even though it doesn't need to.

I brought this up for discussion in their github, and it resulted in @nutomic@lemmy.ml removing parsing of audience altogether!

So this might actually be a moot point once more Lemmy instances update, but I am not 100% sure.

@silverpill@mitra.social this is now tested and outgoing backfill is working with NodeBB.

Are there plans to introduce post collections to all levels via context?

While there is utility in exposing it for the root-level, if I am Announce'd one of the replies (e.g. this one), there is no explicit link to the top-level post in order to discover context.